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On One of the Lead Codices Images: Philip Davies

Philip Davies writes

I Wonder if anyone thinks these two pictures are related.

The first picture is the one I tentatively suggested as a crucifixion scene:

the other is from Adomnan’s transcription of Arculf’s De Locis Sanctis. (It is reproduced on

It shows the column in front of St Stephen’ Gate (as the ‘Damascus Gate’/’Bab el Amud’ was known in the Byzantine period).

I Wonder how many think that one may have been inspired by the other? I’m not certain myself, but let’s spread the job around a bit. Personally, I’m not too sure, but some of my colleagues think so.


So what do you think- did the recently discovered lead codex copy from the other or is the other actually a replica of the (putatively) earlier lead codex?

UPDATE: Robert Deutsch sends along images of the materials he mentions in comments.

Written by Jim

13/04/2011 at 10:14 am

Posted in Modern Culture

6 Responses

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  1. David Meadows remarks-

    okay … i’m confused … there’s a Roman arch there. which roman arch would that be???? this might be our donation of constantine moment




    13/04/2011 at 11:44 am

  2. This one is “inspired” from a city coin of Neapolis. The gate in the middle is inspired from a coin of Constantine the Great


    Robert Deutsch

    13/04/2011 at 12:33 pm

  3. Wrong gate Bab el Amud is not St Stephens gate its the Damascus gate. Amud means column in Arabic, dedicatory column to Hadrian was once there. check Madaba map,



    13/04/2011 at 12:58 pm

  4. That wouldn’t surprise me since most of the iconography and script appears to be lifted from ancient coins.


    Tom Verenna

    13/04/2011 at 1:01 pm

  5. Is it possible to paste bigger the first pic? And maybe any tentatively description why should it be a crucifixion scene? If this thing below is a cross, what is that circle upon it?


    Tomasz Sobczyk

    13/04/2011 at 3:33 pm

    • if you click them you’ll get the full size. if it wont enlarge, it is the full size



      13/04/2011 at 3:35 pm

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