This stuff… it’s both ridiculous and debasing. It’s just plain ick. There is nothing remotely theological about the whole sordid affair. It’s just another attempt to make a name for herself, though in Christian circles her name is already ‘disgusting’.
Like Dorothee Sölle, this woman should keep silent in the Church. She revels in impurity.
But if you can cite a source in Luther (and not just about Luther) I’d love to see it.
When you’re a ‘church’ but you take a certain measure of delight in the dreadful treatment of children by monsters just so that you can feel morally superior.
This is the self-made theology of the toilet chamber.
Along comes profound buffoonery to prove you oh so very wrong…
To which I say…
It’s self evident that there aren’t or they would remove this politically driven idol worshiper.
His ‘church’ has become nothing more than a weekly political rally for the worst of the GOP. If there were Christians at his ‘church’ they would demand his ouster. They no longer conduct worship, they conduct Republican fundraising.
A Baptist church pastor in Fort Worth, Texas, said today’s rebellious public school students and “lazy gamers” should be stoned to death as part of a societal lesson in obedience.
Stedfast Baptist Church Pastor Jonathan Shelley used Old Testament Bible verses to support his sermon this week against rebellious sons and daughters and how to discipline such disobedient children in public schools—by stoning them to death. Shelley replaced former Pastor Donnie Romero, who resigned two weeks ago after confessing to “being with prostitutes” and engaging in a night of gambling and smoking marijuana at a Jacksonville casino. Pastor Shelley’s rant Monday, which has since been removed from YouTube, focused on how to squash America’s rebellion-minded millennials and Generation Y members and force them to blindly follow the wishes of their elders.
In 2015, the Southern Poverty Law Center listed the Fort Worth Baptist church as a hate group, primarily due to Romero’s anti-LGBT rants labeling all gays “pedophiles.”
From his cult website:
Stedfast Baptist Church is an independent fundamental King James only baptist church pastored by Jonathan Shelley. Jonathan married his wife, Keri, in 2009 and they have three children, Clayton, Jaxon, and Abi Jean.
Jonathan was raised in a Christian home and saved at age five and baptized at age 14. He grew up in large non-denominational churches and had a zeal of God but not according to knowledge. Before his first son was born, Jonathan began to diligently study the Bible and realized he needed to make some changes. He soon became King James only and eventually started to attend an independent fundamental baptist (KJV Only) church in his area. Jonathan was rebaptized in 2015 at Arden Road Baptist Church. In 2016, Jonathan moved to Faithful Word Baptist Church to train to be a pastor. During this transition Jonathan has been blessed to have had the opportunity to preach over 150 sermons, lead soulwinning marathons, go on mission trips to Jamaica and Mexico, and memorize dozens of chapters of the Bible.
Jonathan’s vision is to reach the entire Oklahoma City area with the gospel, train soulwinners, develop and send out evangelists and pastors, and reach foreign countries with the gospel.
He didn’t study to be a pastor, he ‘trained’ to be one at a similarly minded fundamentalistic cult. And he’s what you get when you call a person with no education.
No Christian would say such a thing about an unrepentant immoral adulterer.
He’s an embarrassment. Besides leading his church to abandon worship (so families could worship themselves) a couple of Sunday’s back, he’s now blathered on about the Reformation.
… at the Cross Conference a few days ago, JD Greear, president of the Southern Baptist Convention and pastor of the multi-campus Summit megachurch in North Carolina, declares that God says we need to “shut up about the Reformation” because He is “not a God of the past.”
Greear probably doesn’t know it but every single thing mentioned in the Bible happened in the past. The ignorant git continues, more ignorantly-
Basically what God says through Amos is if you’ll let me put it in colloquial language, “will you shut up about Gilgal and Beersheba?” I’m sick and tired of hearing about those places because I’m not a God who moved in the past. I’m a God who wants to move today in your present. I almost think, I’m on dangerous ground here…I almost think that God is saying to us “shut up about the Reformation.”
That’s not what Amos is about at all. Neither is God saying we should shut up about the Reformation.
The only thing that the selection of Greear to head the SBC proves is that voters at the annual meeting don’t care a thing about a leader’s theological sense or biblical understanding: it’s just a popularity contest. Greear is the pastor of a big church with ‘multiple campuses’ not because he’s a theologian (he isn’t) nor because he’s a biblical scholar (he clearly isn’t) but instead simply because he’s a showman. A farce.
Greear, to borrow a phrase from Paul, should ‘keep silent in the church’.
Answer:
It has no connection at all to historic Christianity; it lacks theological insight; it has no notion of the Church; and it is not Christianity. If you’re a Christian and your ‘church’ cancels services at its ‘campuses’ (I’ll leave aside for now a discussion of the self-aggrandizing ego maniacs who imagine themselves managing various branch locations) simply because there’s a holiday around the corner, get out. It isn’t a Church. It is pretend Christianity. It doesn’t worship God, it worships something else. In this instance, family. But as we all know (or should know) familyolatry is idolatry.
Prayer is about a humble encounter with God the Father with whom the believer is in relationship as child utterly dependent. It is a conversation between Parent and child. It is speaking and listening.
It is NOT about some hazy self actualization. And poetry has nothing to do with prayer. God doesn’t need us to read poetry to him. What could be more artificial than that.
This is what happens when theological ignoramuses talk about theological things.
Today, SkyWatch TV posted a program in which End Times author and SkyWatch TV CEO Tom Horn suggested that Hillary Clinton is the “Whore of Babylon” who was conceived during a ritual carried out in 1946 by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.
Horn claimed that stolen emails posted by Wikileaks revealed that Clinton had filled her 2016 presidential campaign with “occultists” who believe her to be the biblical Whore of Babylon who will usher in the Antichrist.
Citing a ritual that took place in 1946 called “The Babylon Working” in which Hubbard and others allegedly attempted to conceive a goddess through “ritual sex magic,” Horn claimed that Clinton may have been the result of that effort “to bring through, into our reality, the archetype divine feminine, the Whore of Babylon.”
“She’ll grow up, she’ll become an influential worldwide-known feminist who will help give rise to the Antichrist,” Horn said. “They believed that that was Hillary Clinton.”
You Pentebabbleists are lunatics. Brain dead lunatics. You have zero exegetical skill and zero theological knowledge. You are the dilettantes of the dilettantes.
As though the Old Testament has no meaning (or cannot be understood properly) without the New Testament when the truth is, the New Testament cannot be properly understood without the Old Testament.
Nope. You aren’t the first to notice something because you’re a brilliant exegete; you’re first to notice something that no one else ever has because you’re insane.
Again, the New Testament needs the Old to be understood; but the Old doesn’t need the New. So just let the Old Testament be the Word of God in its own right, ok? Bloody Marcionites.
Dispensationalism is so utterly bonkers-
Note to self: it’s a bad idea to roam around at Amazon.com. Look for specific titles, or you’ll just weep.
Stop distorting the Bible to make a buck.
