Daily Archives: 26 Oct 2012

Zwingli and Islam

Emidio Campi writes

[Zwingli] considered Islam basically as a heretic sect deviating from true Christian faith (Z VI/1, 451, 3-16), and regarded the Turks as God’s punishment for Christendom (Z VI/3, 359,2 – 360,2…).  On the other hand, he was no friend of the crusades against the Turks, for the reason that it would put power into the hands of the Pope (Z II, 309,1-20); significantly, he did consider the possibility of a missionary enterprise to Muslims as an alternative to war (Z I,435,12 – 436,1; 438,30 – 440,9).*

As Campi goes on to point out, this is a topic which deserves further attention, particularly once Zwingli’s exegetical works are finally published.

In the meanwhile, here are the relevant texts which Campi cites-

Z VI/1, 451, 3-16 —   Dann soverr der mensch nit anderst gloubte, weder das ja ein gott wär, und sich aber an denselben gott nit liesse mit ungezwyfletem vertruwen, so thät er nit mer, dann so einer under uns gloubt, das die Türcken den Mahomet vererind, er vereret in aber nit. So ist im sölcher gloub nit schädlich; dann er setzt kein zuoversicht in inn. Glycherwyß, so wir allein gloubtind, das ein gott wäre, vertruwtind aber nit, das er unser gott und vatter, wäre es uns glych nit fruchtbar, als es ouch nit schädlich ist wüssen, das der Mahomet vereret und in inn vertruwt wirt, so verr wir dasselbig nit thuond. Dann ouch die tüffel gloubend Jacobi 2. [Jak. 2. 19] unnd erzitterend, das ist: erkennend wol, daß ein gott ist; dann sy deß innen sind worden, deßhalb sy noch ab im zittrend. Vertruwend aber nit, noch versehend sich keins guoten zuo im, habend in ouch nit lieb.

Z VI/3, 359,2 – 360,2 — … dann der Türgg in Sibenbürg ob fiertzig tusend menschen hingefuort oder erschlagen, rüst sich uff Sicilien und Tütschland mit großem züg. Darzuo werdend noch me lüt darzuo reden, ee und man die sechs stett also lasse von gottes wort tringen.

Z II, 309,1-20 — Ietz wil er wider den Türggen fechten, damit sin gesind zuo Rom nit umbkömme. Hör, o bapst, Christum: Steck in. Es werdend die weltlichen fürsten ir land wol beschirmen underston. Und gang, predig du das rych gottes! Bistu wirsch ze rüwen denn Christus, ob du glych erstochen wirdst? Oder muoß man den Türggen notlicher weeren, die uff dich ylend, weder den Juden, die uff Christum ylend? So du wol sehen magst, du syest denn blind, das sölich durchächten der ungleubigen got über uns verhengt umb unser sünden willen, wiltu den rat gottes hinderstellig machen? Gang hyn unnd wend die süntlichen Sodomen zuo rüwen, nit mit büchsen und reysen, nit mit dem hyn- und harryten der böggenbischoffen, sunder mit dem wort gottes, und predig und schry wie Jonas, wie Joannes, wie Christus: Besserend üch. Unnd nimm ghein ander schwert in d’ hend nit weder das schwert des geistes, das ist: das wort gots und andre waffen, die Paulus Eph. 6. [Eph. 6. 11-17] schmidet, oder aber du wirst umkummen. Diser David kan in dem stählinen harnest nit fechten [cf. 1. Sam. 17. 38f.]. Oder aber, so lang du nach ysinen waffen schryst, werdend wir all sehen, das du nitt ein nachgenger Christi noch Petri, sunder des tüfels bist, ja der war antchrist.

Z I,435,12 – 436,1; 438,30 – 440,9 — 1. Consideravi itaque, quod ad primum adtinet, si Romanus pontifex in hoc incumbit, ut Cęsarem et Francorum regem componat, qui fiat, ut hoc apud Germanos ordiatur, a quibus negocium minime pendet? Deinde si ecclesiam reparare constituit, quamobrem non a suis episcopis et cardinalibus auspicetur, pręsertim quod palam sit omnibus omnem luxum et abusum ecclesiasticorum a Romanis tanquam a fonte in universum orbem derivatos esse? Si vero copias in Thurcos expedire, miror tam audax propositum, quod [E. II. 341. p. 3304b] septuagenarius, quod Christi mansuetissimi sacerdos et vicarius – ut hoc interim donem – nondum pacatis bellis, nec principum summorum conciliatis animis, tantum facinus promittere audet, quasi ex se omnia pendeant. … 10. Hoc tamenadmonitos volo, ut si audiatis inducias inter Francorum regem ac Cęsarem factas, sciatis non ea gratia factas esse, ut vel in Thurcas mittatur exercitus, vel ut ipsi paulisper respirent. (Quomodo enim simul fideliter essent pugnaturi, qui adhuc inter se hostiliter dissiderent? vel quomodo respirationem darent ei, quem statuerunt toto etiam decennio belli oneribus fatigare?) Sed ut nervis omnibus possint in hoc unum incumbere, ut euangelii prędicatio sub Lutheri nomine infirmetur. Quod si factum erit, obtinuit Roma non iam totius Germanię regnum, sed orbis Christiani monarchiam. Taceo hic quiddam cuique cogitandum. 11. Nulli quoque principum imponere debet, quod superiores pontifices Romani cęperunt liberos vestros ad episcopatus et purpureum pileum vocare. Hoc enim propter pręsentem necessitatem tantum factum est, quo vos velut acceptis obsidibus oppignerarent vel dicto audientes facerent; quod ubi pręstiteritis, despicient. Atque interim vos hoc damni feretis, ut quod aliquando Romanos pontifices passi estis vestris tribuere quod vestrum erat, cum dolore cernatis non vestris accedere. 12. Sed neque istud pręterierim, quod ad pręsentem occasionem passim rumores dissipantur, novitium pontificem Romanum infensum esse luxui cardinalium, atque eius esse sententię, ut supra octo cardinales inautorare nolit. Deo gratia, quod vel huc ventum est. Verum quid octo faciet? Si cardinalitius ordo Rempublicam Christianam decet ex Christi aut apostolorum instituto, cur non potius augetur quam minuitur? aut quomodo licebit abolere quod deus statuit? Si ex dei instituto non est, quid vel octo miserę plebi obtruduntur, ac non potius tota radix evellitur, ne unquam simile luxus seminarium pullulet? 13. Verum confestim videbimus an dictus pontifex cupiat ad regulam euangelicam episcoporum et cardinalium mores corrigere. Nam si eis Thurcorum muros et lapidea corda septies uno die, hoc est indesinenter pręcipiat ambire ac tubarum instar euangelium [E. II. 341. p. 3306a] ebuccinare: iam certi erimus eum ad magistri sui exemplar omnia comparaturum, qui ut messem videbat adpetere, misit suos, ut meterent sine sacculo et pera, indubieque sperabimus eum Thurcorum animas lucrifacturum. Porro si machinas, commeatum,pedites, classem, equites expediat, nihil differet a mundi huius tyrannis. Periclitabitur enim tota Respublica Christiana. Cardinales autem et episcopi pręsertim, quos suffraganeos adpellamus, si fortiter euangelii munus obierint, immensam hominum capient multitudinem citra omne populi periculum citraque caedem et sanguinem; ni forte fortuna ipsi occidantur. Id autem proventus certissimum indicium erit. Granum enim tritici si mortuum fuerit, multum fructum adferet [Joh. 12. 24].

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* In his essay in Calvinus clarissimus theologus: Papers of the Tenth International Congress on Calvin Research, p. 108.

The Celebration of the 65th Anniversary of the Biblical Studies Department at Sheffield Continues

29th October 2012 – Emeritus Professor J. Cheryl Exum, ‘A Role for the Arts in Biblical Studies’, Jessop West Exhibition Space, 2pm-4pm- This lecture is open to all, attendance is free and there is no need to book.

And then

7 November 2012 – Dr Mark Finney, ‘Resurrecting Jesus: Pauline Thought in Sheffield and Beyond’, Humanities Research Institute, 6.30pm.

You can download all the cool upcoming lectures here. The Department’s 65th Anniversary page is here. And of course the main page of the Department is here.

And here are some photos of Sheffield (just because I love it there as I do) –

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(yes, the photo of the white building with the two blue doors is the Department home and Philip Davies requested to be able to use my snapshot for the Department page- which I was more than thrilled to grant).

First World Problems: Food Protests… At Magdalen College, Oxford

They have set up their own soup kitchens, organised large-scale home cooking sessions and accepted invitations from friends to dine at other colleges.  Students labelled the charges, which will apply to new arrivals at Magdalen College from next year, as “regressive”. It is claimed that they could cause hardship among poorer students who already face rising living costs and tuition fees.  Officials at the historic college, whose former students include George Osborne, the Chancellor, insist that the price rise is necessary to reduce an annual catering deficit of almost £600,000. It is thought that the boycott is costing the college up to £5,000 a week.

Such a thing would never happen at Cambridge…  😉  Anyway, kids, let this be your first lesson in first world economics: there REALLY is no such thing as a free lunch.

Logos Responds

From Cliff-

Here is what you need to do.

1. Open the texts you desire (BHS, LXX, Vulgate, the Message Bible, etc.)
2. Whatever is your primary text, click the book icon in the upper left hand corner and notice the section:
Link Set: A B C D E F None
3. Click any one of the letters.
4. Now, do the same for the other text you have open, making sure that you match the Link Set you chose for your primary text.
5. Once you have done this, whenever you scroll, it now is in sync.
Fun note:
You can do this for the exegetical guide as well, thus allowing the guide to update as you move through the Hebrew, Greek, etc. I do this all the time myself.
I have attached a few picture to illustrate how this looks
Hope this helps.
Indeed it does.  Thanks.

Another Request for Logos Help

I hope this is something that has a simple solution.  Let’s say that I’m reading Exodus and I want the Hebrew text to be synchronized as I scroll through it with the Latin text and the LXX.  Is that possible?  Or must I, as I now do, manually scroll through each window?

Further- I presume that if I can do this for the Old Testament I can also do it with the new, aligning the GNT with the Vulgate and some or other English version or German or whatever.  Right?

Another Pretty Good Week

From last Friday through yesterday- 7 days.

New From Thomas Römer, « Les vivants et les ossements des morts dans la Bible hébraïque »

T. Römer, « Les vivants et les ossements des morts dans la Bible hébraïque », in J.-M. Durand, T. Römer et J. Hutzli (ed.), Les vivants et eurs morts (OBO 257).  Download it at the link.

From the Archives of Zwingliana: Zur politischen Ethik der Generation nach Zwingli, by Rene Hauswirth

Die folgende Skizze erhebt keinen Anspruch auf Vollständigkeit. Sie versucht, auf einige Aspekte sittlicher Wertvorstellungen in der Politik in summarischer Zusammenfassung hinzuweisen; zwei für das damalige Zürich besonders charakteristische Normen – evangelischer Glaube und Verbot von Reislauf und Pensionen – werden sodann etwas eingehender dargestellt. Die wichtigsten Zeugnisse, auf die sich die Darstellung stützt, sind: 1. die offiziellen Satzungen, 2. die Regimentsbücher (im weiteren Sinn die politische Literatur, die in der zweiten Hälfte des 16. Jahrhunderts erst richtig einsetzte) und 3. die Akten über die vorsorgende, verwaltende und richtende Tätigkeit der Ratsbehörden, «miner herren rät und burger », wie der Stadtschreiber sie in seinen Protokollen nennt.

Very much worth a read. And you can download it here.  It’s especially meaningful in these politically charged times.

ETS Plenary Sessions LiveStreaming via Zondervan Academic

Via Zondervan Academic on FB:

Have you RSVP’d for live webcasts of all plenary addresses at the upcoming annual meeting of the Evangelical Theological Society? If not, visit www.livestream.com/ZondervanAcademic.

Here’s the complete listing of talks:

Wednesday, Nov. 13

1:50 PM-2:40 PM CST
E. Calvin Beisner (Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation)
“Creation Care and Godly Dominion: The Search for a Genuinely Biblical Earth Stewardship”

Wednesday, Nov. 13
7:30 PM-8:20 PM CST
Russell Moore (The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary)
“Heaven and Nature Sing: How Evangelical Theology Can Inform the Task of Environmental Protection, and Vice-Versa”

Thursday, Nov. 14
1:50 PM-2:40 PM CST
Richard Bauckham (Professor Emeritus, University of St. Andrews)
“Reading the Bible in the Context of the Ecological Threats of our Time”

Friday, Nov. 15
9:10 AM-10:00 AM CST
Douglas Moo (Wessner Chair of Biblical Studies, Wheaton College)
“Biblical Theology and Creation Care”

Friday, Nov. 15
10:10 AM-11:40 AM CST
Panel Discussion with all plenary speakers

I think SBL should look into doing this as well.  I’m glad ETS is.

First Thoughts on Nestle-Aland 28

Review of the contents themselves will follow soon- what I want to draw attention to at the moment are features of the new edition that strike me as noteworthy.

First, and I like this very much, the edition has its number nicely embossed on the front cover-

Second, it includes a card in both German and English

This is quite useful for the poor souls who do not yet know the language of heaven (German) and must hobble along in their biblical studies with only English (and, one would presume Greek, if they have a GNT).  Third, the size of the new edition is quite nice-

Notice as well the title of 1 Peter.  Compare this to NA27 (below, where both editions are beside each other) –

I’m really quite pleased that the font of NA 27 has been retained.  It’s quite lovely and remarkably legible.  Far superior to other editions which use a dreadful and unfortunate italic font.

So, in terms of aesthetics, NA 28 is both an improvement on and a continuation of the brilliant family from which it descends.  Next time, some observations on various readings.

Another Colloquium to Add to the List

I’ve already announced that Jodi Magness has agreed to join us on the Biblical Studies List for a colloquium (discussion) on her just published volume, The Archaeology of the Holy Land: From the Destruction of Solomon’s Temple to the Muslim Conquest. Our discussion will take place November 1-10.

And that Avraham Faust has also agreed to join us on the List for a colloquium scheduled for December 2-10. His book, also just published, Judah in the Neo-Babylonian Period, is available from SBL.

And as well that Eric Meyers of Duke University will join us January 13-20, 2013 to discuss his new volume, Alexander to Constantine.

Well, now we’re adding another to the list so the upcoming months should really be amazing in terms of our opportunities to discuss new publications with their authors:  February 11-17 Carol and Eric Meyers will be with us on the Biblical Studies List discussing their volume, Archaeology, Bible, Politics, and the Media: Proceedings of the Duke University Conference, April 23-24, 2009.

These discussions are aimed at giving us the chance to ask questions and receive answers of leading scholars in the fields of biblical studies and archaeology.  Join us.  But be sure to read the book first!

Being Drunk is No Excuse for Being a Child Molester: The Tale of Thomas Menghi Jr.

Former scoutmaster Thomas J. Menghi Jr. says he was usually drunk when he molested numerous Boy Scouts during the early 1970s.

He was in his late 20s, living in a Fayetteville motel and working as Tupperware deliveryman. He invited boys from Troop 786 as young as 11 years old to ride with him along his route, requesting that they spend the night in his room so they could get an early start.

“Yes, I abused kids,” Menghi, now 69, said in an interview Wednesday with The Associated Press. “But just how many and other details I can’t remember. It was a long time ago and I was in a fog.”

Why isn’t he in jail?  Why is he giving interviews out in the fresh air of freedom?

“What I did was wrong,” Menghi said, sitting in a rocking chair on his front porch. “I’m not making any excuses. But I was a heavy drinker and did pot every once in a while.”  His file shows local scout officials were contacted in early 1974 by the father of two brothers, ages 11 and 12. They had been overhead by an older sister talking about what happened in Menghi’s motel room. Other parents also reported that their sons had been molested.

Sounds like an excuse to me.  Again, why isn’t he in prison?

The local scouting officials wrote to national headquarters seeking guidance on whether to encourage the parents of the abused boys to file a criminal complaint. Paul I. Ernst, the BSA executive then in charge of the organization’s secret files, directed them not to.

Well then, Mr Ernst, you aided and abetted his perverse behavior and you are as guilty as he is.  And why isn’t he in prison??

“Normally, we do not suggest that any legal action be instituted by parents,” Ernst wrote. “If they desire to do this on their own they certainly should bring about any action they feel necessary. Certainly in this case, there is every indication that legal action is justified.”

‘We don’t suggest legal action…’?????  Are you kidding?????  Well- that little phrase has made me lose ALL respect for the Boy Scouts of America as an organization.  How many molesters are still active and in charge and how many in positions of authority are facilitating perversity because they care more about scouting’s ‘reputation’ than they do the lives of kids???  Perversion.

A woman who answered the phone at a listing for Ernst, who now lives in Texas, directed questions to BSA and hung up.

There’s no statute of limitations on prosecuting child sexual abuse in North Carolina. William West, the district attorney for the county that includes Fayetteville, said in a statement that his office and the sheriff’s department would review Menghi’s case.

How hard do you have to look?  He’s admitted it.  There are witnesses that he did it.  Imprison this depraved miscreant.  Today.  Now.

I Know What Car I Want Next!

This fantastic thing!  It’s not powered by gas or battery, it’s powered by compressed air and will travel 90+ miles on a ‘fill up’ (which costs little more than $1.50).  It’s efficient, light, environmentally sensible, and awesome looking.  Must have.

Compressed air engines work in the same was as conventional ICE engines do, but the power comes from the expansion of compressed air in the cylinders rather than the explosions from ignited hydrocarbons. The Airpod is powered by a 430cc 2-cylinder engine that develops 7kW at 1,500rpm – enough for it to reach 70kph.

Must have.  MUST HAVE!

Today With Zwingli: The Beginning of the Second Zurich Disputation

The First Disputation had set the stage for Zwingli’s Reformatory efforts and the Second, which was held for 3 days with over 900 participants, sealed the deal.  At the end of the Disputation there would be no turning back.  Zwingli would live another 8 years and would achieve much, but the solidification of his work would have to wait for Bullinger.

Of the Disputation, Schaff writes

Konrad Schmid of Küssnacht took a moderate position, and produced great effect upon the audience by his eloquence. His judgment was, first to take the idolatry out of the heart before abolishing the outward images, and to leave the staff to the weak until they are able to walk without it and to rely solely on Christ. The Council was not prepared to order the immediate abolition of the mass and the images. It punished Hottinger and other “idol-stormers” by banishment, and appointed a commission of ministers and laymen, including Zwingli, Schmidt and Judae, who should enlighten the people on the subject by preaching and writing. . Zwingli prepared his “Short and Christian Introduction,” which was sent by the Council of Two Hundred to all the ministers of the canton, the bishops of Constance, Basle, and Coire, the University of Basle, and to the twelve other cantons (Nov. 17, 1523).

S.M. Jackson writes in his biography of Zwingli –

The first day was given to a debate upon the proposition: the Church images are forbidden by God and Holy Scripture, and therefore Christians should neither make, set up, nor reverence them, but they should be removed. It was resolved to remove them wherever it could be done without disturbance or wounding tender consciences.

Those in prison for the offence of removing them were recommended to mercy, and the burgomaster promised to spare them.

The second and third days were taken up in discussing this proposition: the mass is no sacrifice, and hitherto has been celebrated with many abuses, quite different from its original institution by Christ. The debate being now on a burning question was livelier. Zwingli shrewdly avoided a plain statement as to the exact nature of the elements, for the time had not come for his radical stand, but he showed wherein a representation differed from a repetition of Christ’s sacrifice. He confessed that transubstantiation and its defenders, especially the monks, had too frequently been attacked by abuse rather than by argument, but stoutly declared that the monks were hypocrites, and monasticism was of the devil. The debate on the third day began at noon, and was in continuation of the preceding. But although so much time was consumed, no decision was arrived at, except to let the Council handle it.

It was perhaps noticed that the debate on the third day did not begin till noon. The explanation is that Zwingli preached that morning. So many country preachers could not separate without having a sermon from the leading city preacher. Many months later he expanded the discourse by urgent request, and published it March 26, 1524. It is called “The Shepherd.” In it he contrasts the good and the false shepherds. He set plainly before them the prospect that fidelity would lead to martyrdom. Such was the fate he expected for himself, as appears from his letters.