On One of the Lead Codices Images: Philip Davies

Philip Davies writes

I Wonder if anyone thinks these two pictures are related.

The first picture is the one I tentatively suggested as a crucifixion scene:

the other is from Adomnan’s transcription of Arculf’s De Locis Sanctis. (It is reproduced on http://www.christusrex.org/www1/ofm/mad/sources/sources056.html).

It shows the column in front of St Stephen’ Gate (as the ‘Damascus Gate’/’Bab el Amud’ was known in the Byzantine period).

I Wonder how many think that one may have been inspired by the other? I’m not certain myself, but let’s spread the job around a bit. Personally, I’m not too sure, but some of my colleagues think so.


So what do you think- did the recently discovered lead codex copy from the other or is the other actually a replica of the (putatively) earlier lead codex?

UPDATE: Robert Deutsch sends along images of the materials he mentions in comments.

6 thoughts on “On One of the Lead Codices Images: Philip Davies

  1. Jim 13 Apr 2011 at 11:44 am

    David Meadows remarks-

    okay … i’m confused … there’s a Roman arch there. which roman arch would that be???? this might be our donation of constantine moment



  2. Robert Deutsch 13 Apr 2011 at 12:33 pm

    This one is “inspired” from a city coin of Neapolis. The gate in the middle is inspired from a coin of Constantine the Great


  3. Joe 13 Apr 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Wrong gate Bab el Amud is not St Stephens gate its the Damascus gate. Amud means column in Arabic, dedicatory column to Hadrian was once there. check Madaba map,


  4. Tom Verenna 13 Apr 2011 at 1:01 pm

    That wouldn’t surprise me since most of the iconography and script appears to be lifted from ancient coins.


  5. Tomasz Sobczyk 13 Apr 2011 at 3:33 pm

    Is it possible to paste bigger the first pic? And maybe any tentatively description why should it be a crucifixion scene? If this thing below is a cross, what is that circle upon it?


    • Jim 13 Apr 2011 at 3:35 pm

      if you click them you’ll get the full size. if it wont enlarge, it is the full size


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