Total Depravity: The Church Pugilists Edition

Authorities say a dispute over leadership at a church in western North Carolina turned from angry words to fist fights.  About 30 police officers from five agencies were called to break up fights Sunday at Greater New Zion Baptist Church in Fletcher, about 94 miles west of Charlotte.  Henderson County Sheriff’s Capt. Jerry Rice says the brawl is under investigation and no one appears to have been seriously hurt.  Rice says there were about 75 people at the church when police arrived, but not all of them were scuffling.  Church members are divided over the recent ouster of the Rev. LeVonia Ray as pastor of the church. The fighting apparently began over whether a vote should be held to reinstate him.

I know what Paul would say to them: το γαρ ονομα του θεου δι υμας βλασφημειται εν τοις εθνεσιν.   I also know what Calvin would say to them: Le nom du Christ est blasphémé à cause de vous.  Why folk do such things as struggle for power in the Church when they should know quite well that in the community of faith ‘he who would be the greatest among you must be servant of all’.

4 thoughts on “Total Depravity: The Church Pugilists Edition

  1. Chuck Grantham 31 Jan 2011 at 1:55 pm

    Gee, I thought this was covered in the Baptist handbook.

    One group stays in the church, the other leaves, buys a lot across the street, and opens their own church.

    Joh 17:22-23 NET. The glory you gave to me I have given to them, that they may be one just as we are one — (23) I in them and you in me — that they may be completely one, so that the world will know that you sent me, and you have loved them just as you have loved me.

    Joh 13:34 NET. “I give you a new commandment — to love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.

    I’m not sure if Baptist Bibles don’t have these verses or if Baptists have a problem with them, but there you are….


    • Jim 31 Jan 2011 at 2:17 pm

      baptists are selective readers of scripture. or as a skank on jerry springer put it. ‘i go to church every week’. then followed a string of explitives and a physical attack on her baby’s daddy…. (no, they weren’t married). i think that disconnect says it all.


  2. doug 31 Jan 2011 at 4:30 pm

    you were watching Springer?


    • Jim 31 Jan 2011 at 4:49 pm

      i do whenever i can. all the examples of depravity one can imagine in a single hour


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