Why the Mosque in New York is No Issue

1- Our Country was established so that people could practice their faith freely.

2- Muslims practice Islam.

3- Islam is a religion.

4- Therefore, Muslims are free to practice their religion in the United States.

The extremist loons who think Muslims should ‘get out’ or shouldn’t be allowed to build a place of worship wheresoever they have property are as absurd as those who think Churches shouldn’t be built.  If people don’t like democracy and freedom of religion, they should get out of the United States and move to, oh I don’t know, Texas.

18 responses to “Why the Mosque in New York is No Issue

  1. I completely agree. What I find disturbing is the number people I have heard that asserting that Islam shoulud not be considered a religion. I grew up baptist. I am no longer strongly baptist (although I still have some of those leanings.). One of the things that I like about my baptist upbringing is that we were always taught to support freedom of religion of others, even those you disagree with because the lack of freedom to worship will affect you at some point. Many of those most complaining about the mosque are also those that think that Christianity is being oppressed in the US. I do not understand how people think that you can oppress someone else and not have it affect your own worship.

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  3. I write this as one that has fought shoulder to shoulder with the very best of the American Marines (Force Recon), and also the American Special Forces.

    The issue is not that the American Muslims should not be given your full constitutional freedoms, religious or otherwise. But that putting a Mosque so close to your ground zero, is simply not in good taste, since like it or not, it was in the name of that radical faith of Islam that such was done. No, the American people, and perhaps the American military should speak on this one, and not the politicians. And certainly not the liberal wing of the American people and ideology, alone.

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    • i served in the US Army to defend the Constitution. That included serving so that Muslims, and anyone else, can worship where and when they please.

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  4. Your’s is just one voice Jim, from that august group. I can bet the majority, especially those that have actually fought against Radical Islam would say…no Mosque near ground zero! But that is just a good guess!

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  5. I just don’t get the holy ground concept. How far would be good enough? 4 blocks, 10 blocks, 10 miles. This is not on the site. It is several blocks away. Clearly it is not a legal issue. No judge would say they don’t have a right.

    But there are quite a few politicians and religious lobbyist that are insisting that it is on the site and that they don’t have a right. It is nothing more than grandstanding. If there is something that is depraved, it is religious leaders that use their position to defame others.

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  6. Fr. Robert, it’s shocking to me, to realize that the principle known here in the US as “Freedom of Religion” and thought for over two centuries to be one of the rights explicitly asserted in the Bill of Rights of the Constitution, may no longer be tolerable to any American who isn’t a member of what you call “the liberal wing of the American people and ideology, alone.” Claiming as you do to defend the principle while you condemn the practice, is fraud.

    Though it is incorrect to say that “. . . our Country was founded so that people could practice their faith freely . . .” it is clear that by the time the Constitution was ratified a majority of us had come to accept the principle that religious freedom for one faith necessitated tolerance of any and all faiths. Our history shows us to have been more-or-less true to that principle. It is not merely ironic that the faction who proclaim themselves the stalwart defenders of our Constitution are the faction championing the abandonment of this First Amendment principle; this is also the faction who have made an issue of the President’s religion in disregard of the Constitutional stipulation that there shall be no religious test for any public office (Article VI), and whose leaders talk freely of resorting to “Second Amendment remedies” if they do not prevail at the ballot box.

    Fr. Robert, should the US Marine Corps that you admire, be called upon to defend the elected government against such threats I wonder where then your sympathies would lie.

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  7. What is disturbing me is the number of silly americans, especially silly american atheists who preach about not believing in superstitions, who are embracing the ridiculous conspiricay theories proposed. Included in these masses are members of the pointlessly absurd Center for Inquiry. And then equally as moronic, Hitchens tries to put a ‘sober’ word forward and calm the conspiracies, but accuses Imam Rauf of ‘shady and creepy’ statements when he suggested american foreign policy had something to do with Islamic extremism. Is he not aware that most of the non american, non muslim world, have independently suggested the same thing? And Hitchens yesterday, lumps all Islam in the same pot and suggests that Rauf is responsible for all the extremist forms of Islam in the world … as if all christians are responsible for the outrageous statements of Pat Robertson and his kind. Are all these american atheists who have ‘studied’ Islam for about a decade (oh what a coincidence – since 2001 oh my goodness gracious me wonder how that can be), not aware that Islam in practice is about as diverse as Christianity – quite apart from the differences between Sunni, Shia, and even Sufism… exactly what does this ‘study’ involve???

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  8. …and incidentally, as for this blinking so called ‘holy ground’ hooha, that’s even more reason to build another mosque (perhaps even three), an extra temple, and even another blinking church.

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    • if ground zero is indeed hallowed- you’re right. but with strip joints and whorish displays it can hardly be called that.

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  9. or perhaps the hypocritical protesting morons are there on false pretenses – really just hanging around to peep at the porn. I’ve heard alot of rumours about ‘Christians’ and porn. I think I’ll weave a little conspiracy theory…

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