If You Quit, You Weren’t In the First Place

‘Author’ Anne Rice has said that she has ‘quit’ being a Christian. What she evidently doesn’t know (because she lacks theological skill and knowledge of the Bible) is that if she quit, she never was one in the first place. And that’s true of all those so called ‘former’ Christians. They were never Christians in the first place.

Anne Rice, the bestselling novelist most popularly known for “Interview with the Vampire” and her other creepy vampire novels, announced on Wednesday via Facebook that she has officially renounced Christianity.

She can’t renounce something she never was a part of. That would be like me renouncing being a supermodel. Or a politician renouncing being ethical. Or a lawyer renouncing honesty.

It’s really quite simple- all those people who say they have abandoned Christianity have never abandoned anything of the sort. All they’ve abandoned is their own pretense of faith. That’s all. Nothing more. So such renunciations are as meaningless as the faith supposedly possessed by false Christians.

ἐξ ἡμῶν ἐξῆλθαν ἀλλ’ οὐκ ἦσαν ἐξ ἡμῶν· εἰ γὰρ ἐξ ἡμῶν ἦσαν, μεμενήκεισαν ἂν μεθ’ ἡμῶν· ἀλλ’ ἵνα φανερωθῶσιν ὅτι οὐκ εἰσὶν πάντες ἐξ ἡμῶν. – I Jn 2:19

John has it right, 100%. The ‘Christianity renouncers’ won’t agree with John, but why would they? They have neither part in nor claim on true Christianity, so what they think about it just doesn’t matter and their absence nothing more than the absence of tares from a wheat field. And as Calvin writes

… all by whom he is received in true faith have been given him by the Father, and … none of them, while he is their Guardian and Shepherd, will perish.

UPDATE:  Let me just say this as clearly as possible since some among you don’t seem to comprehend it.  You can’t reject ‘Christianity’ without also rejecting Christ.  You can’t reject ‘the Church’ without rejecting salvation.  There is no salvation outside the Church.  Period.  It is from, through, in, and by the Church that we learn of sin, salvation, redemption, the Spirit, and everything that matters.  To throw out the bathwater is, in the case of Christianity, to throw out the baby.

Some of you seem capable of slicing the baby in half, but Solomon in all his wisdom never allowed that.  Slice the baby, you kill it for sure.  Salus extra ecclesiam non est.

23 thoughts on “If You Quit, You Weren’t In the First Place

  1. Stuart 30 Jul 2010 at 8:08 am

    Once saved, always saved….

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  2. Stuart 30 Jul 2010 at 9:59 am

    I wanted to find the Scripture that says something like; if they leave us they were never one of us, but for love nor money can I find it….I’m worrying I’ve made it up in my mind…

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    • Jim 30 Jul 2010 at 10:20 am

      well i included it in the post…. the scripture i reference…. that’s it….

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  3. Emerson Fast 30 Jul 2010 at 10:23 am

    John (the apostle), Calvin and Jim are all correct. You don’t abandon something that has been irrevocably given. This frustrates and saddens me.

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  4. Stuart 30 Jul 2010 at 10:37 am

    19They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

    Oh what a coincidence, I genuinly didn’t realise it…

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    • Jim 30 Jul 2010 at 10:43 am

      but it was right there…!!!!!

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  5. Stuart 30 Jul 2010 at 10:41 am

    Froma personal perspective I cannot understand how folks could walk away from truth. That to me is an absurdity and so I am only left with the only conclusion that they had not received the truth in the first place.

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    • Jim 30 Jul 2010 at 10:43 am

      thats just it- they dont. they are tares, not wheat.

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  6. […] still thinks Jesus is okay, but not the rest of us. Brian LePort, T. C. Robinson, Collin Hansen, Jim West, and Joe Carter, have all commented on this, and I’m sure many others have as well. […]

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  7. Rev Tony Buglass 30 Jul 2010 at 11:59 am

    Once saved, always saved. Absolutely. Which means either you’re right, and she wasn’t, or that she was, is going through some kind of crisis, and will be back. It does happen. Only God knows what is really in the heart.

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    • Jim 30 Jul 2010 at 1:43 pm

      if she renounces christianity she renounces salvation. outside the church there is no salvation.

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  8. MC 30 Jul 2010 at 12:04 pm

    I got stuck on the part where Jim was renouncing being a supermodel…..

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    • Jim 30 Jul 2010 at 1:43 pm

      i know- but its true…

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  9. […] Jim West posts that Anne Rice was never was a Christian. […]

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  10. Adam 30 Jul 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Here’s another way to respond:

    http://www.russellmoore.com/2010/07/30/anne-rice-hasnt-betrayed-you/

    I know he’s a friend of Mohler’s, but I wonder if you can look past that part 😉 and tell us what you think.

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  11. […] of all those so called ‘former’ Christians. They were never Christians in the first place. (read post…., bold […]

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  12. gerard 30 Jul 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Just reading her Facebook page, and she seems very confused. She thinks Christianity is to follow other people who follow Jesus, rather than being part of the collective group of people who follow Jesus.

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  13. Jason 30 Jul 2010 at 10:57 pm

    I’m with you MC, I’m still reeling from the shock.

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  14. […] Salvation Outside the Church? 31 07 2010 So over at Jim West’s blog he has jumped upon the recent Facebook renunciation of “Christianity” by vampire […]

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  15. Acidri 31 Jul 2010 at 11:20 am

    Now that poor Anne has publicly “quit” being a so called christian, should I unlike or defriend her on face book? Seeing that bad company corrupts good morals…well i will keep her for a while -Acidri’s Blog

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  16. John Petty 3 Aug 2010 at 10:16 am

    I weren’t aware you were a medieval Catholic! Who says there’s no salvation outside the church? Why, the church does, of course!

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    • Jim 3 Aug 2010 at 10:52 am

      thats because the church has the keys to the kingdom.

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  17. John Petty 3 Aug 2010 at 12:04 pm

    That would be the Roman Catholic interpretation of one verse in Matthew, which is not enough to consign millions to perdition.

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