Quote of the Day

When it is accepted that the Word which is offered comes from God, there is no one of such desperate presumption (unless he is completely devoid of both natural feeling and even of humanity) who will dare to depart from faith in it. — John Calvin

7 thoughts on “Quote of the Day

  1. irishanglican 19 Jan 2010 at 12:39 pm

    I take this as both the Word or Logos become flesh, which leads right into the Trinitarian heart or centre of God; then the Rhema of God, the written word.


    • Jim 19 Jan 2010 at 12:46 pm

      calvin actually has in mind Scripture.


  2. irishanglican 19 Jan 2010 at 12:54 pm

    Calvin is good, but his incarnational ideas are lacking sometimes in my opinion.


    • Jim 19 Jan 2010 at 12:59 pm

      calvin is usually called on the carpet for his notion of predestination, not his christology.


  3. irishanglican 19 Jan 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Not an attack at all, just a personal perception. His Christology is good, but the incarnational emphasis seems rather small to me. Perhaps I am looking at the Johannine myself?


  4. irishanglican 19 Jan 2010 at 1:47 pm

    I am re-reading an older book: Revelation Redemption & Response, Calvin’s Trinitaian Understanding of the Divine-Human Relationship, by Philip Walker Butin (Oxford, 1995). It would seem to me that Calvin is closer to Athansius, and sees the Trinity more crucial to Christ’s deity, and thus to salvation (soteriological), than to the fact of the Incarnation itself. Which can be a good thing! Calvin as also a Nicene hammer? The Incarnation without the redemptive measure is false. Barth said that some in the East and Orthodoxy had fallen here.


  5. irishanglican 19 Jan 2010 at 1:57 pm

    Perhaps too my perception of Calvin has not been, as Torrance said, really Catholic? Reading too much American Reformed (at the moment), rather than the Dutch Reformed? Butin’s book however appears very broad. I have forgotten much of it. I am getting older now..lol.


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