Below are two photos. One of Joel Watts and one of Bryan Lewis. I understand your confusion if you think they’re actually Joel Osteen and Rick Warren. What you don’t realize is that Joel Watts IS Joel Osteen, and Bryan Lewis IS Rick Warren. They go by their screen names online in order to cozy up to actual scholars because they aren’t.
And now you know the rest of the story… When next you speak to Joel Watts, you’re actually speaking to the arch-heretic Joel Osteen. And when you speak to Bryan Lewis, you’re actually conversing with the slightly less heretical Rick Warren. The truth is exposed.
As he’s now telling them to stay off the internet… doubtless to protect them from such nasty things as the facts and the truth about him and his ‘ministry’. So, really, how long before he completely plunges into insanity and, like Jim Jones, urges his followers to some unimaginable self destructive behavior?
From Mark Driscoll’s sermon dated June 8 on the Mars Hill Church website:
Now, some of you may have heard we’re a Reformed church. Don’t Google it, don’t blow your head up. We love Jesus, read your Bible, stay off the Internet. It’s all shenanigans anyways.
Admittedly, this is a very short part of a very long sermon but I am starting to wonder if this represents a more significant development at Mars Hill Church.
Over the weekend, and then again today, I have heard from sources near Mars Hill that some in the congregation are being warned to avoid blogs and media that have carried articles deemed to be critical of Mars Hill.
One source (6/17, now multiple sources) told me that the accuracy of information is being questioned and false information is being told about me and others.
How long, then, before Driscoll strives to control everything the cult, erm, ‘church’ reads? And what greater indication that Mars Hill is a cult than the fact that its leader is telling folk to stay away from X? (where x = anything Driscoll finds discomfiting).
Ed Young doesn’t understand the function and purpose of tithing. It isn’t to serve as little more than the purchase of a lottery ticket which God will add to and return to you upon your ‘investment’.
A Texas megachurch believes so much in the promise of God’s blessings that it’s offering a full refund to tithers who don’t experience it. Fellowship Church in Grapevine, Texas, has launched “The 90-Day Challenge,” which promises churchgoers, “that if you tithe for 90 days and God doesn’t hold true to his promise of blessings, we will refund 100% of your tithe,” the church said in a description of the event on its website.
Many the theologically ignorant buffoon will fall for the scam. But they need to be reminded that God isn’t your lottery ticket. And if you give, or tithe, with mercenary intentions, just keep your stinking money.
I wonder how much money the homeschooler coalition is pumping into his campaign and I wonder how much the publishers of homeschooling materials have wet themselves in joyful anticipation of his potential election…
A candidate for South Carolina’s lieutenant governor position is encouraging Christians to pull their children out of public schools and pursue other educational options, like private schools and homeschools. E. Ray Moore is a Republican candidate vying for the lieutenant governor seat in South Carolina. A former army chaplain, Moore often emphasizes the importance of faith and family. He and his wife lead the organization Exodus Mandate, which is a Christian ministry designed to promote homeschools and Christian schools. “It is our prayer and hope that a fresh obedience by Christian families in educating their children according to Biblical mandates will prove to be a key for the revival of our families, our churches and our nation,” Exodus Mandate’s website states.
A politician who demonizes public schools has NO BUSINESS serving the PUBLIC. If the people of South Carolina elect this person, they deserve the ignorant misery which will descend on their State and they also deserve to experience the exodus of businesses in the wake of a newly ignorant-ized populace.
What the world doesn’t need is a State where ignorance is prized and people with no expertise or experience in education are educating future generations. These people, who prize ignorance and are so fearful of the outside world need to realize that they have no more business educating children than they do operating on their own brains.
And by downunder I don’t mean Australia or New Zealand. I mean down…. under…….
Ken Ham is ready to do battle once again with an unlikely foe, televangelist Pat Robertson, over their differing views on the age of the earth. Responding to Robertson’s recent remarks that “you have to be deaf, dumb and blind to think that this Earth that we live in only has 6,000 years of existence,” Ham fired back on his Facebook page yesterday. Ham, whose group Answers in Genesis runs the Creation Museum, said that Robertson’s comments were “beyond ignorant” and incorporated “pagan ideas,” arguing that his attack on “the authority of the Word” amounts to an attack on Jesus Christ.
It’s sort of like one guy who isn’t a theologian arguing theology with another guy who isn’t a theologian and the only loser turning out to be theology. Yay America…
From a discussion on the facebook about commentaries on Romans that are useful, one chap opines while mentioning JN Darby and another famed dispensationalist-
Apart from their Dispensationalism which hardly intrudes you may be surprised to see how close their resemblance to Wright.
What that means, of course, is that Wright resembles Darby (given the fact that Darby precedes Wright chronologically). Someone needs to sneak into Wright’s study and see if he has Darby’s works highlighted. They even look alike!
The heavens are putting on a celestial show next week — and one Christian pastor is convinced it’s a sign from God. Bestselling author and televangelist Pastor John Hagee claims the four blood moons that will soon appear in the skies over America are evidence of a future “world-shaking event.” The blood moons are part of a tetrad, a set of complete and consecutive lunar eclipses that will begin on April 15 and continue in roughly six-month intervals until October 2015.
To normal people these celestial events are interesting, even pretty. But to the Dilly winning Hagee they are grist for his insanity mill. When nothing happens in the wake of these events, will Hagee be honest and subject himself to the punishment the Hebrew Bible reserves for false ‘prophets’? No. He will make excuses- just like Harold Camping did. 8 times.
Anyway, ‘Pastor’ Hagee- here’s your Dilly (and you’re sharing it with each and every single person who believes what you say) -
This report by NPR is simultaneously enlightening and depressing. Just knowing that so many people are being misled by pentebabbleist pseudo-theology is enough to give even John Wesley a coronary. And knowing, as well, that the ecclesiology of Daystar is profoundly wrong just adds insult to injury.
About mid way through…
The founder and CEO of Daystar is a dapper, often-tearful, 56-year-old Pentecostal minister from Georgia named Marcus Lamb. He’s a spirited preacher and a tireless fundraiser. He declined numerous requests to speak to NPR. But in a four-page letter from Daniel Woodward, Daystar’s director of marketing, the network defends its business practices and notes that all of them comply with IRS rules. As a nonprofit broadcaster, it is little different from NPR, Woodward says, but for its classification as a church under IRS guidelines.
“Both networks are nonprofit entities that are tax exempt under Section 501(c)(3),” Woodward writes. “They both enjoy all of the same benefits and obligations, other than the fact that Daystar does not have to file a form 990, due to its church status, for which it is fully compliant under the law.”
Daystar produces its own lineup of popular Christian talk shows and sells airtime to well-known evangelists such as T.D. Jakes and Joel Osteen. “It just speaks to me, and I feel like I’m being ministered to,” says Jordan Riley, a Christian pop singer in Seattle who supports Daystar.
Despite its self-description as a church, Daystar does not resemble a church in any traditional sense.
“Church to me is when I’m gathered with other believers,” Riley says. “I don’t consider it an electronic church.”
Several former employees also don’t call Daystar a church.
“When the lights are on and the cameras are on, we’re a ministry. When those lights are off, cameras are off, it doesn’t feel like a ministry,” says Lisa Anderson, former executive assistant to Marcus Lamb and his wife, Joni. “It is a business making money.”
Daystar’s former IT manager Bill Hornback agrees. “I mean, there’s no Sunday sermon, no Wednesday night meeting. It’s all business. It’s not a church. It’s a television broadcasting company, that’s what they are,” says Hornback.
A tv show isn’t a church. A business isn’t a church. A church isn’t somewhere else, it’s where the people of God are gathered, literally, in one physical place at one particular time. Nothing else has been or ever will be the church in any respectable responsible theologically appropriate way.
Worst of all, these people are taking advantage of a law that wasn’t designed to feather their nests, but which is.